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Här kommer en liten utvärdering, nåja snarare (några detaljer) från Kistalight om kursen Digital Photography and Image Theory på konsthögskolan i Stockholm som jag avslutade tidigare (jan -14) under vårterminen . Jag hade inte heller något lösenord till Daisy där vi skulle göra en evaluation på kursen så det får bli några nedslag här istället.
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 Kring kursen som var en distanskurs med föreläsningar, en utmärkt kursbok Photography A culural History, kursmaterial, föreläsningar och en rad roliga och intressanta bilduppgifter som skulle besvaras genom webben i DSV Stockholm regi.
 Det fanns även ett Help Forum. En webbplats som bra mycket påminde om ett chattforum för studenter och där oftast lärarna lyste med sin frånvaro. På forumet kunde det ibland dyka upp mycket kärnfulla formuleringar som uttryckte studenternas desperation. Kursens språk var engelska och utropen färgas av detta.
 - Håll till godo!
Som sig bör startade kursen med diverse desperata utrop på hjälpforumet.
Är inte all god konstnärlig verksamhet och skapande granne med kaos?

 En av de första uppgifterna var att göra en pinhole camera, typ väldigt enkel barnkamera utan objektiv! Sånt kan vara knepigt i de mobila och digitala kamerornas tid.
Man saknar helt enkelt lins som går att ta bort!

No camera with removable lens

by H I

Hi, I have only a fixed lens. Assignment 1C says to remove the lens and replace it
with different holes.
 Can I do that without removing the lens?

Re: No camera with removable lens

by T T

I just have a digital pocket camera so I believe I have the same problem. I'm not sure,
 is it possible to remove the lense of such cameras, generally?

Re: No camera with removable lens

by B L

Hi there.

Your cameras are probably not suitable for this assignment.
 Can you perhaps boorow a camera?
 Or Can you find one student friend in this course close to you?

Re: No camera with removable lens

by A S E L

I have the same problem as i mentioed earlier.
I am not in sweden right now, and have been trying to look around to borrow one,
 although havent found.
Maybe there is some possibilty to rent a camera I will go and see.
 But otherwise I have to unfortunately complete the assignment later on,
 since I know I can borrow one from a friend in sweden.

Re: No camera with removable lens

by A S E L
Or maybe some possibility as mentioned earlier to do it wihtout removing lens?

Re: No camera with removable lens

by T T I'll try to get hold of an appropriate camera.

Surely I'll be able to borrow somebody else's at some point;
hopefully by Thursday

Re: No camera with removable lens

by P D

Seems like we are a bunch of people who only have access to digital-cameras
without removable lens. At this point I don't know how
I would be able to finish this assignment on time.

 I hope it will be possible to hand it in later,
or if it's possible to create the lens and document
it using the digital camera currently available to me?

Timezone mistake

Hi! by J P

I did a mistake when calculating the differences between the time zones from Sweden to Washington DC - so assignment 2a was published almost an hour after the deadline. I did still publish it as a blogpost but I couldn't connect it to the assignment (I did connect it to the course and to my group). I am very sorry that I messed up the schedule. Would it be possible for me to still get this assignment graded and to be assigned another students material to assess?

Ibland får en Deadline nya dimensioner - En ursäkt som heter duga! Kistalight har under åren som lärare samlat på sig ett försvarbart antal orsaker för att man inte hinner lämna in sitt arbete i tid! Den här var bra!

Re: No camera with removable lens

by E K

Same problemm here, none of my friends have system camera.
 But I should begin to spam people from the cource and ask to borrow a camera

More from Assignment 1C – how to removing the lens

by A R

So, on to Assignment 1C...
Are we given instructions on how to perform this task of
"removing the lens and replace it with various types of holes"?
Maybe I'm just new to this but I really don't know what to expect or how to create
 "the holes" and what to create "the holes" from. Paper?
I'm also a bit scared of this damaging the camera in some way,
 by removing the lense for a longer period of time. 

Sorry about my many questions,
but I just want to make sure I understand the assignments correctly!

/ _ _ _ / And so on

Porträtt Fru Ulla Kistalight söt - vi prövar Pinhole camera med vår gamla mobil (antik!). Material lång hushållsrulle (innerbiten, tuben som blev kvar när papperet är slut) maskeringstape för titthålet, häftmassa att fästa röret vid mobilen - Värsta pressfotografen alltså men uppgiften blev ej godkänd! Bild Thommy Sjöberg

En instruktion nära kaos var vilka sidor och kapitel vi skulle läsa till respektive uppgift. Vilket naturligtvis uppmärksammas på vårt Help Forum. Typen av frågor känns lätt igen (tonen) för en ärrad gammal So-lärare på Spånga high och här var det befogade frågor!

Important! Chapters are very different in the 1st and 3rd edition!

by A
I just wanted to mention that the editions of Mary Warner Mariens book

seem to be very different from each other concerning how the chapters and parts have been devided,
which makes it complicate to just follow the reading instructions.

I have the third edition. Since I thought the pages and chapters didnt make any sense in the instruction,
 I looked up how the first edition is devided and compared to mine.

Chapter 1 and 2 seem to be the same in both editions,
but chapter 3 (in the third edition) actually means Part Two, which includes chapters 3, 4 and 5
(so we who own the third edition shouldnt just read the third chapter!).

Chapter 4 in the old edition seems to mean chapter 6 and 7 in the third (Titled Part Three),
chapter 5 means 8 and 9 in the third edition (Part Four) and so on.

Simply chapter... :
(old edition on the left)
1 = 1
2 = 2
3 = 3,4,5
4 = 6,7
5 = 8,9

I am not sure I am completely right, but considering the content and headlines,
looking at my preface and this preface, I think it is right.
http://www.amazon.com/Photography-Cultural-Mary-Warner-Marien/dp/1856694933

Hope this helped someone else as confused as me!

Re: Literature Important! Chapters are very different in the 1st and 3rd edition!

by A B

Quick question!

I have now read all of the three chapters in A Cultural History that was required for Assignment 1A,
although I am only on page 97. In the instructions it said 1-66 (depending on edition),
could it be so that my edition (ISBN 9780205708000) is so differen in numbering the pages?
 If I turn page it's clerarly says "Capther Four - Imaging Of The Social World".
 And that isn't the material for 1 A right? 

Assignment 1A Important! Chapters are very different in the 1st and 3rd edition!

by P W

Hi, I have a third edition of Photography: A cultural history.
It is a very large edition and i'm usure if they are all the same size.
My chapter 3 finishes on page 97. Last chapter ficish witj portrait by Julia Margaret Cameron.
I can see on our assignment that it states that chapter 3 should finish around page 166.
Is is chaper 3 and not part 3 we should finish with?

thanks 

Assignment 1A Important! Chapters are very different in the 1st and 3rd edition!

by A R

Great thing you brought this up Pauline, I was wondering the same thing and I've also got the 3rd edition

Assignment 1A Important! Chapters are very different in the 1st and 3rd edition!

by E N K

No answer yet, but I  guess it´s chapter 5 in part 2, page 161?
Otherwise we would have to read all the way to page 231
if we were to read part 3 now.

Ibland får man lösa problemet själv! Var och en sin egen lyckas smed!

I want to comment, please!

by T T

Hey,

I'm so sorry to be bothering you during the weekend but I am so frustrated.
I want to comment on my peers' work but the site just won't allow me to.
Whenever I click 'Comment', I'm directed to the top of the page.
It's happened a lot but not all the time.
Is it due to a fault in the system or to my slow connection?
Thank you!

Re: I want to comment, please!

by T T

So I solved the puzzle myself.
The entire post has to be loaded prior to commenting.
In case it should be useful for someone else to know,
 it helps to look at individual posts.

Re: I want to comment, please!

by A K

Yes, this problem is amplified as some people are forgetting to scale down
their images before uploading. So some posts take a very long time to load…
us a very long time before you can comment.

Good you fixed it

En favorit bland utropen blev följande målande rubrik!

This portal is making my head explode

By T T

I know that this is an annoying comment and it may seem pointless but I'm hoping that maybe it could also be read as constructive feedback.

For the second time today, I lost a post I had been working on for over and hour. Admittedly it was my own fault that I hadn't saved my work but I find it quite frustrating to not be able to copy/paste from a document I could save also for my own records. I'm using mozilla and have tried many times to follow the instructions given to sort out the copy/pasting problem, but I've not succeeded. I'm not a computer wizard and I should remember to save whatever I do on here but the system is quite fiddly and I find it's quite easy to accidentally move to another page.

If any of this could be fixed I'd be very happy and if not, I'll get the work done anyway and can report that I generally find the system clear and easy to use. Rant over.

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Något som inte nog tydliggjordes i Portalen var behovet av en lärare eller flera. Någon som fanns till hands, kunde lugna ned när frågorna drog iväg åt typ hållet desperation. Någon som kunde ge exakta praktiska svar om vilka sidor och texter som skulle läsas. Någon som kunde ge exempel på vad som var realistiskt att göra - teaching och inte minst!
 Inte lämna studenterna i ett webbens tomrum med sina frågor och behov. Helpforum som Kinesiska muren eller Se spännande essä om Googlemaps Help Forum!
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Lärare behövs, typ viktiga, gäller även i digitala webbkurser på distans. Härlig insikt för en gammal ärrad So-lärare! 

PS Vill bara tillägga om nu händelsevis några blivande studenter läser det här att kursen Digital Photography är en mycket trevlig, intressant, rolig och spännande kurs. Undertecknad tycker sig dessutom ha haft riktig tur när det gäller ämnen för våra uppgifter - kunde nästan ses som skräddarsydda för Kistalight! Bedömningarna och omdömena av lärarna var helt okej för min del även om dom tog en hel del tid för lärarna att rätta dem. Tror att lärarna på de mer konstnärliga momenten skulle tjäna på att upprätta en mall enligt mål och riktlinjer för kursen för sina bedömningar. Kanske något för kommande kurser? För kommande studenter rekommenderas måttligt läsande och skrivande av inlägg på Help Forum. Inlägg som lätt blir ena riktiga energitjuvar - lita på ditt eget omdöme och förmåga. 

 Nu passar vi på med en sammanfattning av Kistalights egna bloggar inspirerade av kursen toppat med några favoritbilder.

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